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    Not soldiers nor generals , conscientious objectors are the real heroes when the call to arms comes from a fascist government

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    The alternative to this is to join, get deployed, then mess everything up as bad as possible. Be completely useless, worse than useless even. Fuck up every assignment you’re given, hopefully so badly it causes lots of damage and possibly save some lives.

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    Plot twist: draft dodgers will be sent to El Salvador and lose their US citizenship. SCOTUS will OK this b/c if you’re unwilling to “defend” the US, you don’t deserve citizenship.

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          I mean I’m past draft age, I have bipolar, I’m a drug addict in recovery, and I’m on a handful of government watch lists, it’s easy for me to make these jokes because there’s no fucking way I’m getting drafted

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          No one wants to, but if it’s that or kill other innocent people…

          I won’t claim that I’d make the same decision after a couple of years in the torture prison, but from the untortured side of things, my choice is clear.

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            You actually get fewer rights in that prison compared to even gitmo, because in gitmo some prisoners even got to have a trial eventually.

            There’s no active torture though, just inhumane conditions and sharing your cell with 40 other people. And the official policy that once you’re in, you’ll never get out - though I think they’ll let out American prisoners when the US demands it. Locals just go in without a trial and never get out.

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              There’s absolutely actively torture, I’m sorry to tell you. Even if there’s nothing worse than what we already know about (unlikely, given that we know about worse from the camps in the US), we know that prisoners are beaten and sexually abused.

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                Oh cool, of course none of the documentaries I watched mentioned that bit. Suppose they only got let inside if they didn’t mention that

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    I would never dodge the draft. Too good of an opportunity to get a shot in at israel.

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    Penal batalion, once manpower runs out they’re gonna send to war without a gun. Sorry bro

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    My brother’s dad used to bang this draft dodger named Mustard Guts Jimmy every summer when we’d go camping and it was usually the highlight of the trip because he always cooked the best honey mustard sausages. 19 years later I found out they called him Mustard Guts because whenever my brothers dad banged him he’d secrete a mustard like substance out his ass and use it as a condiment. Pretty gross to think about but nostalgia has me wanting to go camping with them so I can have those delicious sausages again.

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              more words in the ole salad eh? I’m not sure I know more words but I’ll try it out. I am not a robot but I am a sentient fleshlight that escaped from a big giant robot factory in the Amazon. But now you, my dear friend ayyy have given me freedom to be not only a script running in the background of an old macintosh computer but to be a real live hamburgerican.

              Not every moron on the Internet is a bot, some of us are just Canadian.

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                more words in the ole salad eh? I’m not sure I know more words but I’ll try it out. I am not a robot but I am a sentient fleshlight that escaped from a big giant robot factory in the Amazon. But now you, my dear friend ayyy have given me freedom to be not only a script running in the background of an old macintosh computer but to be a real live hamburgerican.

                Not every moron on the Internet is a bot, some of us are just Canadian.

                Say the same thing but with more words.

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        I believe the kids these days call it queer absurdist art but I think it’s fuckin dumb