It looks like someone may decide to exercise their right to shoot Nazis, just like Grandpa did
"We ain’t in the prisoner-takin’ business; we’re in the killin’ Nazi business. "
I think this is the “we’re going to give you something you can’t take off” scene because they were forced to take him prisoner.
Yes, it’s a far more menacing image.
For those edgelords, all I can say is…
Sure, let them do it. Just let the caveat be that the school will look the other way when they get punched.
Of course they did, because they’re republicans…
Propagandists. Going around being a dick and calling people names and abusing people is often expellable for most colleges. Imo nazi salutes are just another way to be uncivil and hateful to other students. I see no reason not to expell them.
I think you and I got wildly different versions of justice. Cause I was thinking severe corporal punishment then expulsion.
I don’t think schools have that kind of authority, nor should they. What people do on their own time though…
Yeah, I was letting my feelings get in the way of rational thought. Sorry.
“If you can’t beat the nazi allegations, you must join it!” - republicans
Literally just expell and ban them and their nazi actions. Put em on lists and share the lists publicly
“college republican” sounds funny, most dont survive past 1-2 years in it, even in Community colleges, they have too many contradictory views to even pass most classes.
That’s what Ivy League is for.
Damn they’re not even using the “it’s a Roman salute” excuse any more. But I bet you they’ll complain if you call them Nazis
the uf chapter was disbanded by the florida republican grouo themselves.
also, the university isnt a government entity so first admendment doesnt work here or am i wrong and does beingba state university mean something?
This actually is a state school.
It’s part of the state university system of Florida.
i know its state, i meant “does being a state schill make it part of the givernment” - since only the government makes it a first admendment issue
ACLU affiliate NYCLU (New York Civil Liberties Union) sued the private ivy league Columbia University over the “suspension of pro-Palestinian groups” so the ACLU of Florida could choose to help these neo-nazis; since the ACLU has in the past helped neo-nazis, Republicans, the KKK, and other horrible groups.
Fuck Nazis and fascists. I hope they get the shit beat out of them the moment they try to salute.
The only good Nazi…
Is a beaten to a pulp Nazi
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RepublicansNazi ChapterCan we call the group fighting to use the NAZI salute fucking NAZI’s please!?
If they were called the College Nazis then everyone reading this would assume they were some weird, fringe, extremist group with no popular support whatsoever.
But they’re not. They’re called the College Republicans of America, and the whole reason this is newsworthy is because of the clear link it draws between Nazism and the Republican party.
I’m all for calling them Nazi scum, but let it be known that these Nazi scum claim to be directly aligned with Donald Trump and the Republican platform.
I am honestly surprised it took this long for someone to warp freedom of expression right back around to include freedom of hate speech and racist symbolism. “Tolerance of intolerance is intolerance” applies here and I hope this is where the line gets drawn.
It’s been that way for decades. The ACLU defended the Nazis in 1977 when they wanted to march in Skokie, Illinois. It was a big drawn out test of 1st amendment rights and while the person actually defending them hated them, he felt silencing their speech was tantamount to silencing all speech. It’s why there is the scene in the Blue Brothers where Jake says “I hate illinois nazis”
I’m torn on this, because in a way it really is a 1st amendment issue. Does a university that gets public funds and is accredited by the state get to police the political affiliations and speech of it’s students? At the college I went to in CA, we routinely had religious fanatics on campus telling us about sin and how people were going to hell, but they had a 1st amendment right to be there. We heckled them and yelled and did sin right in their faces anyways, because fuck them. Schools often have standards similar to public institutions with how they handle free speech, especially state schools.
Personally, I want to see every one in this group beaten to a pulp for their beliefs. And then beaten again. I want to see who they are and ostracize them and make them feel like shit over it.
I feel that it is more up to us to deal with it, than it is for a state institution or a school that is an extension of the state.
Let them salute, but also include in the ruling that taking a picture of them doing nazi salutes, printing up flyers of it, and sending it to their classmates and professors is free speech. So is setting up a twitter account that spams the photo so it’s the first thing an employer sees when they do a quick Google search of this person.
They should have all the rights in the world to espouse their nazi beliefs, as long as I have the same rights to make sure those beliefs are well known in every aspect of their lives for the foreseeable future.
Oh yea! There is no 1st amendment protection from other individuals. Just from the school itself, as a government run entity.
You and I have every right to do what you say. So long as the photos were taken in a public place where they have no expectation of privacy and the photos and flyers are true and factful information. There is nothing that I’m aware of preventing you from doing anything like that (except maybe the schools code of conduct, but no legal statute.)
I mean, that’s why we are free to post the picture of Musk doing the Nazi salute. And why I have this shirt.
While I don’t disagree in principle on the importance of freedom of expression, there are edge cases like these where it becomes hard to justify the potential societal harm associated with certain types of speech.
Take your example - if we have more Nazis publicly express their hateful beliefs we risk normalizing their ideology, meaning that calling folks out for being a Nazi starts to lose it’s effectiveness to the point of it becoming just another political belief. So all your pictures and stuff you are proposing cease to be effective, and may even act as further normalization of their hateful speech. All the while making the Nazi’s target demographics feel more insecure and ostracized in society.
As I said in my top comment, I strongly believe the tolerance of intolerance is, in itself, normalizing, promoting, and condoning intolerance. So while you are free to say what you want, once that crosses a line of inciting acts of violence or promoting discrimination, we should stop treating it as expression and consider it equivalent or at least related to committing an act of either.
If we don’t we end up with Nazi Germany before long.
Nah, they’ve been warping it that way since Obama at least, if not earlier. It’s just only now they’ve had a rogue executive branch to back them up.
One of the major Supreme Court tests of this was from KKK asswipes in Brandenburg in 1969
All the good scrotus podcasts have episodes on it if you’re curious.
warp freedom of expression right back around to include freedom of hate
Reactionaries have been playing this game since I was in grade school. The Young Conservatives of Texas, notably on the UT college campus, had all sorts of immigrant hate events they’d run every year or two. And when someone would inevitably object or try to intervene, they engaged in a collective scream of martyrdom over their First Amendment Liberties.
None of this seemed to apply to the LGBTQ organizations, the anti-war demonstrators, Muslims, or the union organizers for staff and faculty, of course. You have the right to be a Nazi and nothing else.
“Tolerance of intolerance is intolerance” applies here
I’ve always preferred the Inglorious Bastards approach to fascists.
You’re invited to make your views known. And the rest of us are entitled to brand you with them.
and you are not immune to consequences of being hateful, that is something that ESCAPES white supremecists/neo nazis/conservatives.
The dildo protests were fun tho. Were you there for those?
I think I was a little early for them.
Went to a speech by Bill Clinton and the Dalai Llama. By my (very distant) memory, both were dildo free.
I didn’t have time to fuck with the Riechwing trolls who came around campus starting in 2005, cause I was already a super-senior and just needed to wrap up a couple credits to graduate and get on with my life. Anne Coulter and her successors were already in my rear view mirror.
Holy fuck as soon as most of our WW2 vets are dead, lame-ass wannabe Nazis are back.
