• hector@lemmy.today
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    2 months ago

    Syphillis is objectively better than aids.

    But it was not going to win the election, much less restore the republic.

    We knew being not the other guy was not enough, that the other guys are nazis, that the electorate does not know that.

    So explain to me why forcing a doomed to fail strategy is not disqualifying for dem establishment figures?

    Even now you regurgitate their projections of blame? Why should anyone trust your analysis of anything if you still trust those establishment conservatives to run the dem party while you are at it?

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        2 months ago

        You cannot be serious. I levied questions about how the election was thrown by the dems from the start.

        You cannot answer with reason.

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          2 months ago

          The reasonable choice was to vote for Kamala out of sheer harm reduction. Throwing a hissy fit and taking your ball and going home because you think we should be playing a different game helped nobody.

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            2 months ago

            You are vote shaming which is neither here nor there.

            The question is knowing status quo candidates whose only selling point is they are harm reduction, was not enough to win, let alone with the most unpopular candidate they had on offer, never breaching 30 pc approval all term pre anointation, the vp of a prez at 40 pc for 3 years.

            You knew the situation, but trusted the same people that gave us hillary and biden, to run a doomed to fail strategy.

            So how is it reasonable to appoint kamala, and accept her and the status quo strategy knowing it was throwing the game?

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              2 months ago

              Yes, I am vote shaming. You don’t seem to understand that you had two options. Harris could have been the second shittest candidate to ever run for the office and she still would have been a preferable choice. I think that by failing to oppose mask-off fascism in this admittedly tiny but still quite meaningful way, you do bear some small amount of blame for the state of things.

              To wit: If you couldn’t hold your nose and vote for a bad candidate to stop the candidate who everyone knew would be much worse, I do not want to form a coalition with you and I certainly do not want to climb into a trench with you.

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                2 months ago

                Actually, I didn’t get any options because I live in a red state and my vote doesn’t count. Stop pretending we have democracy.

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                  2 months ago

                  You will never be the swing voter, but the only way your vote doesn’t count at all is if you don’t cast it. The republicans have fought for half a century to suppress voter turnout, and sadly it has worked. Throwing up your hands and saying “well, if they don’t want me to vote I suppose I simply will not vote” is worse than useless.

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                    2 months ago

                    Throwing your vote into a hungry pit is also worse than useless. Trump didn’t even get a majority! President 49.9 enjoys power solely because the electoral system is anti-democratic and doesn’t do runoffs, and he only won the first time because of the electoral college. He attempted a fucking coup and we didn’t put him in prison, and as a result Jan 6th is the most successful US political movement in my lifetime. This country is fucked, and it’s clear Republicans have no plans to allow any electoral input ever again.

                    Will there even be midterms? Who knows! It’s time to think about what you’ll do when you can’t vote anymore.