You are vote shaming which is neither here nor there.
The question is knowing status quo candidates whose only selling point is they are harm reduction, was not enough to win, let alone with the most unpopular candidate they had on offer, never breaching 30 pc approval all term pre anointation, the vp of a prez at 40 pc for 3 years.
You knew the situation, but trusted the same people that gave us hillary and biden, to run a doomed to fail strategy.
So how is it reasonable to appoint kamala, and accept her and the status quo strategy knowing it was throwing the game?
Yes, I am vote shaming. You don’t seem to understand that you had two options. Harris could have been the second shittest candidate to ever run for the office and she still would have been a preferable choice. I think that by failing to oppose mask-off fascism in this admittedly tiny but still quite meaningful way, you do bear some small amount of blame for the state of things.
To wit: If you couldn’t hold your nose and vote for a bad candidate to stop the candidate who everyone knew would be much worse, I do not want to form a coalition with you and I certainly do not want to climb into a trench with you.
You will never be the swing voter, but the only way your vote doesn’t count at all is if you don’t cast it. The republicans have fought for half a century to suppress voter turnout, and sadly it has worked. Throwing up your hands and saying “well, if they don’t want me to vote I suppose I simply will not vote” is worse than useless.
Throwing your vote into a hungry pit is also worse than useless. Trump didn’t even get a majority! President 49.9 enjoys power solely because the electoral system is anti-democratic and doesn’t do runoffs, and he only won the first time because of the electoral college. He attempted a fucking coup and we didn’t put him in prison, and as a result Jan 6th is the most successful US political movement in my lifetime. This country is fucked, and it’s clear Republicans have no plans to allow any electoral input ever again.
Will there even be midterms? Who knows! It’s time to think about what you’ll do when you can’t vote anymore.
This is what grinds my gears about getting into discussions with people who take your position. I do not have to make apologies for the undemocratic first-past-the-post system, or the undemocratic electoral college. Had more people voted, the fix would not have worked. Rigged elections can be overwhelmed, especially when they are being attacked from the outside.
I am thinking about what I’ll do when I can’t vote anymore. And it does not involve common cause with people who do not understand basic strategy.
That’s 71.4% of the country you’re writing off. You’re setting yourself up to lose.
A lot of the protesters in the streets are people who don’t vote for Harris and you have to recon with that. Voting is merely one tactic among many, there are lots of ways to be involved in politics. The fact that someone disagrees with you about a single tactic doesn’t mean they’re irrelevant, it just means you have to find common ground in other ways.
You are vote shaming which is neither here nor there.
The question is knowing status quo candidates whose only selling point is they are harm reduction, was not enough to win, let alone with the most unpopular candidate they had on offer, never breaching 30 pc approval all term pre anointation, the vp of a prez at 40 pc for 3 years.
You knew the situation, but trusted the same people that gave us hillary and biden, to run a doomed to fail strategy.
So how is it reasonable to appoint kamala, and accept her and the status quo strategy knowing it was throwing the game?
Yes, I am vote shaming. You don’t seem to understand that you had two options. Harris could have been the second shittest candidate to ever run for the office and she still would have been a preferable choice. I think that by failing to oppose mask-off fascism in this admittedly tiny but still quite meaningful way, you do bear some small amount of blame for the state of things.
To wit: If you couldn’t hold your nose and vote for a bad candidate to stop the candidate who everyone knew would be much worse, I do not want to form a coalition with you and I certainly do not want to climb into a trench with you.
Actually, I didn’t get any options because I live in a red state and my vote doesn’t count. Stop pretending we have democracy.
You will never be the swing voter, but the only way your vote doesn’t count at all is if you don’t cast it. The republicans have fought for half a century to suppress voter turnout, and sadly it has worked. Throwing up your hands and saying “well, if they don’t want me to vote I suppose I simply will not vote” is worse than useless.
Throwing your vote into a hungry pit is also worse than useless. Trump didn’t even get a majority! President 49.9 enjoys power solely because the electoral system is anti-democratic and doesn’t do runoffs, and he only won the first time because of the electoral college. He attempted a fucking coup and we didn’t put him in prison, and as a result Jan 6th is the most successful US political movement in my lifetime. This country is fucked, and it’s clear Republicans have no plans to allow any electoral input ever again.
Will there even be midterms? Who knows! It’s time to think about what you’ll do when you can’t vote anymore.
This is what grinds my gears about getting into discussions with people who take your position. I do not have to make apologies for the undemocratic first-past-the-post system, or the undemocratic electoral college. Had more people voted, the fix would not have worked. Rigged elections can be overwhelmed, especially when they are being attacked from the outside.
I am thinking about what I’ll do when I can’t vote anymore. And it does not involve common cause with people who do not understand basic strategy.
The vast majority of US citizens did not vote for Harris. Are you going to write off a majority of the country?
Well they’re not gonna do anything anyway, so I might as well.
That’s 71.4% of the country you’re writing off. You’re setting yourself up to lose.
A lot of the protesters in the streets are people who don’t vote for Harris and you have to recon with that. Voting is merely one tactic among many, there are lots of ways to be involved in politics. The fact that someone disagrees with you about a single tactic doesn’t mean they’re irrelevant, it just means you have to find common ground in other ways.
Or we’re all going to die.