lmao at the emotional USian cope in this thread
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It wasn’t about nuclear doctrine, it wasn’t about the Epstein files (altho Usaian libs and leftists really love to believe this), it was and has always been about China
Attempts to sanewash Trump always end up silly. How’s US going to defend Taiwan if push comes to shove? They just committed to Middle East indefinitely while also blowing through AA munitions.
I’m not sanewashing the pedophile, I’ve explained why I think so in this comment here: https://piefed.social/post/1890301/comment/10581655
You’re assuming those things were planned and not just unintended consequences due to lack of planning. That’s the definition of sanewashing. In a few weeks Trump will do something at whim that will disprove that there is a consistent strategy, as has been happening over and over during his term so far.
Weeks? He’s onto Cuba already - and probably the next thing.
In a few weeks Trump will do something at whim that will disprove that there is a consistent strategy, as has been happening over and over during his term so far.
Yeah, totally. In a few weeks Trump will flip sides and suddenly lift the embargo on Cuba and become a supporter of their regime.
Let’s not kid ourselves. Republicans or Democrats, the Usaians have generally kept a steady trajectory when it came to their global hegemony status.
That is not changing any time soon.
W-w-what?
80-90% of Iran’s oil exports go to China. Iran is very much an important part of China’s ambitions of building influence outside the US hegemony, it has been receiving supersonic anti-ship missiles from China - which have been specifically designed to target US carriers, it has been supplied with Chinese cyber infrastructure and taken part in naval exercises and military technology to challenge US regional dominance. By targeting Iran before at this moment in time, US is indirectly targeting China’s oil supply and attempt at regional influence. From China’s point of view, if you tie USA in the Middle East its much harder for them to pivot to Asia when it is needed.
All of these things have lead me to strongly believe that this is not about the nuclear doctrine, neither about the Epstein files and definitely not it being a Israel-led war. Israel is certainly a great beneficiary of this conflict, but certainly not the head of this operation - USA is.
You have not demonstrated that this theory is the exclusive possibility though? It is a somewhat strong indicator of yet another reason that was certainly one of the (several, potentially even many?) deciding factors in pushing forward.
Btw, Usaian is considered a nonce term - it is not preferred by the recipients so is a name interjected into the situation despite terminology already pre-existing. Chiefly, even people in South or Central America for whatever reason call US-Americans as simply “American”, perhaps due to the fact that the word is in English which bespeaks primarily the USA (while only half of Canada), whereas they prefer to call themselves Latinoamericanos or better than that even, by their country of origin e.g. paisas or ticos.
I agree that “American” is problematic, but YSK that many people will ignore everything that you say if you use the term Usaian anywhere in your text, especially when US-American exists. It comes across as you preferring to speak your preferences as to how you would like things to be rather than listen to how reality already is. I hope this is helpful for me to say - obviously feel free to ignore if not.
Usaian is considered a nonce term
I’m sorry, what? Wdym “nonce term”? As in pedophiles use it? What?
Is that a thing? Do pedophiles have preferred terminology for people of the USA? How do you even come to know about this being a “nonce term” in the first place??? Maybe “nonce” means something else?but YSK that many people will ignore everything that you say if you use the term Usaian anywhere in your text
Yeah, that’s completely fine though. I don’t really mind if they ignore me because of terminology.
I always thought that maybe if I start using the term and others start using it as well, maybe it’ll become normalized at some point in the future. Who knows.
If not, then that’s fine, not a biggie.Nonce can mean niche yes, though it does add a flavor of derogatory implication to the subject, similar to if not precisely like how pedophiles have uh… ah… “specialized” interests.
Whether pedophiles themselves have preferred terminology, h-h-how would I know!?! 🤪 It’s funny that we are now discussing our second non-preferred terminology:-).
I think “Usaian” has caught on, but only among internet incel culture, which is the problem I was warning about. Most people use US-American. Using Usaian then comes across as being meant as an insult.
but only among internet incel culture
first time I ever hear about this.
haven’t really see it being used anywhere, personally, let alone among incelsbeing meant as an insult.
A lil guilty of that, ngl. It does have a slight derogatory tinge that I’m not particularly opposed to
What the hell are you talking about…this has nothing to do with china. They don’t get the majority of their oil from Iran, and they have been importing it even through sanctions anyways.
I swear you tankies will try and make shit fit around your “usa bad, china good” logic any way possible.
They don’t get the majority of their oil from Iran
Nowhere did I claim that. My claim was and it is factually correct that out of all of Iran’s oil exports 80-90% go to China, not that 80-90% of China oil imports come from Iran.
you tankies
LOL
Never been called a tankie.
Guess there’s a first for everything.“usa bad, china good”
What are you even on, mate. Just because I’m explaining what I think its USA’s foreign policy that doesn’t mean I agree with the authoritarian pigs controlling China, let alone with the islamist terrorists occupying and oppressing Iran.
Get a fucking grip, buddy.
Nowhere did I claim that. My claim was and it is factually correct that out of all of Iran’s oil exports 80-90% go to China, not that 80-90% of China oil imports come from Iran.
Which do not make up much of the oil china gets. Hell the USA is getting more fucked than china is right now.
LOL
Never been called a tankie.
Guess there’s a first for everything.Considering how quickly you jumped into the whataboutism when china is called out?
What are you even on, mate. Just because I’m explaining what I think its USA’s foreign policy that doesn’t mean I agree with the authoritarian pigs controlling China, let alone with the islamist terrorists occupying and oppressing Iran.
But you didn’t really, you just went into a usa bad rant, and called out the source. The Belt and road initiative alone is basically slavery from china to Africa. They know the countries cannot ever pay the debt off. China is pulling a EU 2.0 that did that shit 100s of years ago. Just using nicer terms.
Hell the USA is getting more fucked than china is right now.
I very much disagree. Whatever economical pain USA is going through is only temporary. Meanwhile the threat to China is having its regional partner clowned on so much so that when shit hit the fan and Iran needed help, what did China do? Nothing. Nada.
USA basically went to the middle east and told China “oh, these are your M.E. partners that you plan on relying upon to challenge my hegemony? look what I can do to them, lol”
And China was Iran’s best bet for strategic protection, but when shit hits the fan they were shown that neither China nor Russia will come to their aid.Considering how quickly you jumped into the whataboutism when china is called out?
You’re talking nonsense and assuming some wild things. Just because I’m explaining what I think USA’s foreign policy is in the middle east that doesn’t mean I agree or disagree with it, let alone me agreeing or disagreeing with what China is doing.
I can very well talk shit on both of them, just as well as I can agree with only some particular actions and not the others.
It is possible to ride a bike and chew gum at the same time.I very much disagree. Whatever economical pain USA is going through is only temporary. Meanwhile the threat to China is having its regional partner clowned on so much so that when shit hit the fan and Iran needed help, what did China do? Nothing. Nada.
USA basically went to the middle east and told China “oh, these are your M.E. partners that you plan on relying upon to challenge my hegemony? look what I can do to them, lol”
And China was Iran’s best bet for strategic protection, but when shit hits the fan they were shown that neither China nor Russia will come to their aid.That goes both ways though, we haven’t really told China to fuck off when they are bashing our Philippine allies and basically threatening Taiwan which again we haven’t done really shit to support and tell them to fuck off. I honestly believe the only reason that china hasn’t invaded yet is because of TSMC having their plants rigged to blow, which fucks china right now…once china has its plants online and near the tech that TSMC produces then all bets are off.
You’re talking nonsense and assuming some wild things. Just because I’m explaining what I think USA’s foreign policy is in the middle east that doesn’t mean I agree or disagree with it, let alone me agreeing or disagreeing with what China is doing.
I can very well talk shit on both of them, just as well as I can agree with only some particular actions and not the others.
It is possible to ride a bike and chew gum at the same time.Fair enough.
