• fiat_lux@lemmy.world
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      15 hours ago

      People. They’re people. Objectionable people with grotesque views, but people nonetheless.

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        No they’re not. People have empathy. They care for others. They care for other people.

        These are ghouls. They don’t care for anyone but themselves and money. They aren’t people. They’re a waste of oxygen.

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        14 hours ago

        Empathy is the most important part of a person. those people either never had it, or chosen to get rid of it. the reason they look like souless gohuls is because in some very significant aspects, they are.

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          I don’t doubt they hold ghoulish views, but it has nothing to do with their appearance. They look like older women fetishizing a revolting idol while subscribed to white supremacist ideals about youth and beauty. Describing them as “things” is dehumanizing in a similar way as they would likely dehumanize us. The more ideologically revolting members of our species are still people.

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            14 hours ago

            fash should be dehumanized though. they aren’t people. they are way beyond the paradox of tolerance. accepting them is unacceptable. I’m and way shape or form. everyone in the picture isn’t deserving the air they breathe.

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              13 hours ago

              Dehumanization is a core mechanism of fascism. It’s not possible to eradicate fascism by using its tools. Your statement also stands in stark contrast with your position that empathy is the most important part of a person.

              The problem is, we’re all capable of atrocities, even if some are much more easily convinced to participate than others. It’s an uncomfortable truth of being human. But we have the choice to attack the parts which are actually contemptible - their words and actions. Alienating people based on their physical appearance equally alienates the people who perceive themselves to have a physical similarity, even when they hold entirely opposite views. That collateral damage is neither necessary nor desirable.

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                13 hours ago

                do I need to being up the paradox of tolerance.

                those women literally want me to die in a concentration camp. any empathy wasted on them is a boon to their fascism and materially hurts those they are trying to kill.

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                  I’m not telling you to tolerate intolerance. I’m telling you that what you have attacked is something entirely unrelated to their intolerance, and actually perpetuates some of that intolerance.

                  It’s not like I’d be spared from concentration camps either, I’m part of a few demographics which have been some of the first targets of fascism too.