That doesn’t even remotely answer my question though? My impression was that you have some kind of belief that an objective reality doesn’t exist in the first place, and that just doesn’t make any kind of sense to me.
The belief in an objective reality is a prerequisite to the owning class’s control of reality. People let the media tell them what to believe, because they want to believe in objective reality. They don’t want to actively participate in creating their own subjective world.
And that’s exactly why the belief in an objective reality is a dangerous and corrupting technology. We shouldn’t leave such a powerful tool for control lying around where evil people can get their hands on it. We need to raise the next generation believing that the universe is subjective in nature, armed with the knowledge of all the horrible atrocities that realists have committed throughout history. The crusades. The slave trade. The stolen generations. The holocaust. All motivated by the belief in an objective reality, with objective reasons to oppress the weak. Realism is an evil technology.
What you’re saying makes no sense… you drawing an equivalence from the existence of an objective reality to some people controlling how that reality is perceived. If anything, you gotten it all flipped around: If reality is subjective (which itself is absurd) then any interpretation of it is equally valid. In that case, anyone is free to believe in their own reality, regardless of the objective facts that prove them wrong. This is basically what’s going on with the MAGA movement: A bunch of people deciding that “reality is what I want it to be”, and acting based on “alternative facts” in complete disregard for the objective, observable, facts around them.
The MAGA people are realists. They believe that they are thinking and acting in alignment with objective reality. You and I can think they’re wrong, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t realists. When it comes to the question of objective reality, they’re on your side, not Mine. They don’t think their perceptions are subjective. They don’t think gender and race are social constructs. They don’t take responsibility for their perceptions like I do.
You’re making the mistake of conflating being wrong with being a subjectivist. Have a serious think, you believe they think gender is a subjective social construct? Not a chance!
They don’t think gender and race are social constructs.
Whether they think that has nothing to do with whether they believe there’s an objective answer to the question. What they do, however, is take positions that are in blatant violation of the observable facts around them. The whole “alternative facts” this is basically an exercise in “taking responsibility for your perceptions”, and choosing to believe whatever you think is right, regardless of the objective reality around you.
You have a point, and I’ll admit that rich conservatives give their followers propaganda that defies their beliefs about objective reality. If we’re talking about alternative facts, then yes, that’s the rich not caring about the truth. That’s the rich… using magic. Changing people’s beliefs to alter the subjective world their followers live in. Yes, the rich and the corrupt politicians are not realists.
And we can’t beat them if we give up the powerful weapon that is magic. They’re using magic, we should use magic too. Magic is a technology that can be used for good or evil, but when it’s used to enforce an idea of objective reality, that’s when it becomes evil. The rich DO NOT WANT their followers taking responsibility for their own perceptions. They want their followers perceiving whatever their rulers tell them! We need to break their magic by freeing the poor conservatives from their realist programming, so the working class can control our subjective world.
That doesn’t even remotely answer my question though? My impression was that you have some kind of belief that an objective reality doesn’t exist in the first place, and that just doesn’t make any kind of sense to me.
The belief in an objective reality is a prerequisite to the owning class’s control of reality. People let the media tell them what to believe, because they want to believe in objective reality. They don’t want to actively participate in creating their own subjective world.
And that’s exactly why the belief in an objective reality is a dangerous and corrupting technology. We shouldn’t leave such a powerful tool for control lying around where evil people can get their hands on it. We need to raise the next generation believing that the universe is subjective in nature, armed with the knowledge of all the horrible atrocities that realists have committed throughout history. The crusades. The slave trade. The stolen generations. The holocaust. All motivated by the belief in an objective reality, with objective reasons to oppress the weak. Realism is an evil technology.
What you’re saying makes no sense… you drawing an equivalence from the existence of an objective reality to some people controlling how that reality is perceived. If anything, you gotten it all flipped around: If reality is subjective (which itself is absurd) then any interpretation of it is equally valid. In that case, anyone is free to believe in their own reality, regardless of the objective facts that prove them wrong. This is basically what’s going on with the MAGA movement: A bunch of people deciding that “reality is what I want it to be”, and acting based on “alternative facts” in complete disregard for the objective, observable, facts around them.
The MAGA people are realists. They believe that they are thinking and acting in alignment with objective reality. You and I can think they’re wrong, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t realists. When it comes to the question of objective reality, they’re on your side, not Mine. They don’t think their perceptions are subjective. They don’t think gender and race are social constructs. They don’t take responsibility for their perceptions like I do.
You’re making the mistake of conflating being wrong with being a subjectivist. Have a serious think, you believe they think gender is a subjective social construct? Not a chance!
Whether they think that has nothing to do with whether they believe there’s an objective answer to the question. What they do, however, is take positions that are in blatant violation of the observable facts around them. The whole “alternative facts” this is basically an exercise in “taking responsibility for your perceptions”, and choosing to believe whatever you think is right, regardless of the objective reality around you.
You have a point, and I’ll admit that rich conservatives give their followers propaganda that defies their beliefs about objective reality. If we’re talking about alternative facts, then yes, that’s the rich not caring about the truth. That’s the rich… using magic. Changing people’s beliefs to alter the subjective world their followers live in. Yes, the rich and the corrupt politicians are not realists.
And we can’t beat them if we give up the powerful weapon that is magic. They’re using magic, we should use magic too. Magic is a technology that can be used for good or evil, but when it’s used to enforce an idea of objective reality, that’s when it becomes evil. The rich DO NOT WANT their followers taking responsibility for their own perceptions. They want their followers perceiving whatever their rulers tell them! We need to break their magic by freeing the poor conservatives from their realist programming, so the working class can control our subjective world.