we could discuss this for weeks, but there should be more background information or atleast basic knowledge of geostrategic tendencies. but here goes, Russia now has an opent front where she has to invest logistics and energy in, at the same time Nato, predominantly Us and Uk are, through Ukrainian army destroying Russia refineries, oil drills, sinking ships and destroying other weapons. If you dont see zhis as weaking your enemy, you are a troll or not enough informed. Furthermore, Us doesnt gove a shot about Ukraine, Crimea, Donbas, Kharkiv or Zelensky, as they didnt about EU in 2014.
I don’t think it was possible guessing in 2008 or 2014 that the Russia would attack Ukraine in such a moronic way as it did. Of course the Russia has gotten weakened by this, and I believe the main reason Scholz and Biden were trying to minimize the military support to Ukraine was that they wanted the Russia to bleed.
But keep in mind: That is the motivation for decreasing Ukraine’s support. The Russia started the war by itself. It would have been in the interests of the Russia to end it right in summer 2022 by withdrawing back behind its own borders. Maybe even just withdrawing back to where the front lines were in January 2022 could have sufficed back then, as people didn’t yet understand how much the Russia wants to completely subjugate Ukraine. It was not understood that this is a war of genocide. But especially Scholz made sure that the Russia would stay in the game. I’ve been wondering why he did that, and I only have such unclear theories about that that it makes no sense to write them – they are likely to be incorrect. But still: We can still see that Putin believes an enemy can be made to give up by scaring it. Europeans are otherwise friendly but if they get scared, they start fighting back. Putin’s junta thinks the other way around: They are friendly if they must, but if they can, they will be aggressive. Putin cannot understand why Ukrainians don’t give up when the Russia shows that it’s willing to torture and murder Ukrainian civilians, because under those same circumstances, Putin would give up. If Scholz had allowed right in, say, May 2022, Ukraine to shoot down the bridge between Ukraine and the Russia using the Taurus missiles, that would have been the end of the war. And the Russia would not have bled.
There is nothing more despicable than those central Europeans that have been advocating against helping Ukraine because they have wanted the Russia to bleed. And then there have been a large bunch of useful idiots who have done the bidding of the Russia-bleeders “in the name of peace”, without understanding what their shouting is actually bringing us to… I’m not thinking very friendly thoughts about those useful idiots, either.
They wanted Russia to bleed by not supporting russias oponent? NAnd now they are bleeding the russians with ukraine blood. It’s all fine untill it’s your own children that are dying. Bombing of the bridge would mean Gemranys entry to the war. That was not their war and the poliplation of Germany doesn’t want it. And dont start with the excuse of defending Europe from Russia imperialistic tendencies, there is no such thing. Otherwise the russians would start with much smaller and weaker countries not the bigest one there is. The point of the war is holding the land connection to the Crimea, the bigest russian port and the only one in the war waters.
Otherwise the russians would start with much smaller and weaker countries
You mean, like Georgia? Or Moldova? Yes, you are right. That’s also what they did.
And the Russia did not mean to begin a war with Ukraine. Putin had spent several billions into bribing Ukrainian officials. He had found a large amount of Ukrainians who were willing to inform him about the sentiments in Ukraine, and they unanimously told that Ukrainians either want to become part of the Russia or will be completely okay with that.
Putin had not recognized that since 2014, most Ukrainians were strongly against the Russia. And he had not understood that almost none of the Russian-speakers in Ukraine identified as Russian. Because most Russian-speakers for example in Estonia or Moldova do identify as Russians. (In Estonia this has lately somewhat changed, BTW. Possibly in Moldova as well, but I don’t know that much about what’s going on over there right now!)
The only people willing to give any information to him were those from a very small minority of Ukrainians that were indeed pro-Russian. I used to like the L’viv–Mariupol train because it was the only night train that arrived to Vinnytsia, where I lived, at a sensible time. Other trains arrived around 4 in the night, this one around 8. Much nicer that way! And there I did have conversations with people from Mariupol city, and I could find people who were indeed pro-Russian. But those were not many at all!
When Putin gave the order for the full-scale invasion, he knew that Ukrainians will not fight. He knew that almost all of the Ukrainian military leadership had been succesfully bribed. Because that’s what all of his aides told him. That’s what the most trusted people around him were telling him. He did not try invading a strong country. He started a military march into a large but extremely weak country that he knew would immediatelly fold.
But he was wrong, because he had built an extremely biased group of sources, and he had promoted exceptionally corrupt people into the Russian leadership. Almost none of those billions meant for bribery of Ukrainian military was actually used for bribery. It went almost exclusively into buying cool yachts for the people responsible for delivering the bribes.
we could discuss this for weeks, but there should be more background information or atleast basic knowledge of geostrategic tendencies. but here goes, Russia now has an opent front where she has to invest logistics and energy in, at the same time Nato, predominantly Us and Uk are, through Ukrainian army destroying Russia refineries, oil drills, sinking ships and destroying other weapons. If you dont see zhis as weaking your enemy, you are a troll or not enough informed. Furthermore, Us doesnt gove a shot about Ukraine, Crimea, Donbas, Kharkiv or Zelensky, as they didnt about EU in 2014.
I don’t think it was possible guessing in 2008 or 2014 that the Russia would attack Ukraine in such a moronic way as it did. Of course the Russia has gotten weakened by this, and I believe the main reason Scholz and Biden were trying to minimize the military support to Ukraine was that they wanted the Russia to bleed.
But keep in mind: That is the motivation for decreasing Ukraine’s support. The Russia started the war by itself. It would have been in the interests of the Russia to end it right in summer 2022 by withdrawing back behind its own borders. Maybe even just withdrawing back to where the front lines were in January 2022 could have sufficed back then, as people didn’t yet understand how much the Russia wants to completely subjugate Ukraine. It was not understood that this is a war of genocide. But especially Scholz made sure that the Russia would stay in the game. I’ve been wondering why he did that, and I only have such unclear theories about that that it makes no sense to write them – they are likely to be incorrect. But still: We can still see that Putin believes an enemy can be made to give up by scaring it. Europeans are otherwise friendly but if they get scared, they start fighting back. Putin’s junta thinks the other way around: They are friendly if they must, but if they can, they will be aggressive. Putin cannot understand why Ukrainians don’t give up when the Russia shows that it’s willing to torture and murder Ukrainian civilians, because under those same circumstances, Putin would give up. If Scholz had allowed right in, say, May 2022, Ukraine to shoot down the bridge between Ukraine and the Russia using the Taurus missiles, that would have been the end of the war. And the Russia would not have bled.
There is nothing more despicable than those central Europeans that have been advocating against helping Ukraine because they have wanted the Russia to bleed. And then there have been a large bunch of useful idiots who have done the bidding of the Russia-bleeders “in the name of peace”, without understanding what their shouting is actually bringing us to… I’m not thinking very friendly thoughts about those useful idiots, either.
They wanted Russia to bleed by not supporting russias oponent? NAnd now they are bleeding the russians with ukraine blood. It’s all fine untill it’s your own children that are dying. Bombing of the bridge would mean Gemranys entry to the war. That was not their war and the poliplation of Germany doesn’t want it. And dont start with the excuse of defending Europe from Russia imperialistic tendencies, there is no such thing. Otherwise the russians would start with much smaller and weaker countries not the bigest one there is. The point of the war is holding the land connection to the Crimea, the bigest russian port and the only one in the war waters.
You mean, like Georgia? Or Moldova? Yes, you are right. That’s also what they did. And the Russia did not mean to begin a war with Ukraine. Putin had spent several billions into bribing Ukrainian officials. He had found a large amount of Ukrainians who were willing to inform him about the sentiments in Ukraine, and they unanimously told that Ukrainians either want to become part of the Russia or will be completely okay with that.
Putin had not recognized that since 2014, most Ukrainians were strongly against the Russia. And he had not understood that almost none of the Russian-speakers in Ukraine identified as Russian. Because most Russian-speakers for example in Estonia or Moldova do identify as Russians. (In Estonia this has lately somewhat changed, BTW. Possibly in Moldova as well, but I don’t know that much about what’s going on over there right now!)
The only people willing to give any information to him were those from a very small minority of Ukrainians that were indeed pro-Russian. I used to like the L’viv–Mariupol train because it was the only night train that arrived to Vinnytsia, where I lived, at a sensible time. Other trains arrived around 4 in the night, this one around 8. Much nicer that way! And there I did have conversations with people from Mariupol city, and I could find people who were indeed pro-Russian. But those were not many at all!
When Putin gave the order for the full-scale invasion, he knew that Ukrainians will not fight. He knew that almost all of the Ukrainian military leadership had been succesfully bribed. Because that’s what all of his aides told him. That’s what the most trusted people around him were telling him. He did not try invading a strong country. He started a military march into a large but extremely weak country that he knew would immediatelly fold.
But he was wrong, because he had built an extremely biased group of sources, and he had promoted exceptionally corrupt people into the Russian leadership. Almost none of those billions meant for bribery of Ukrainian military was actually used for bribery. It went almost exclusively into buying cool yachts for the people responsible for delivering the bribes.
this war?
https://www.reuters.com/article/world/georgia-started-war-with-russia-eu-backed-report-idUSTRE58T4MO/
or do you mean the transnistria war?
Both.
so the one that Georgia started and the civil war? :)
The one that the Russia started, and the other one the Russia started.
sure, reuters also lied